Power's 2020 ranking of the most reliable brands. By 1970, the W-31s final production year, the body styles included either a Cutlass S (Holiday or Sports Coupe) or the F-85 Sports Coupe. Are you sure you want to proceed? Your IP: Oldsmobile had beat out both Pontiac and Plymouth to be the number 3 best selling brand in the U.S. behind Chevrolet and Ford. It was obviously a 350/325hp car with all the options. Unless you can do every bit of the work on it yourself you will find yourself extremely deep underwater on this one trying to bring it back. Its not the same thickness as your pic,mine is only Aprox 5/8" thick,it is 7 1/2 inches tall. Keep me in the conversation via email. If so please use the bidding box above. I go through the block and look at the Julian codes, heads, and intake manifold if it's not a W-30. Congratulations! The Antique Automobile Club of America defines the Muscle Car Era as between 1961 and 1974, a wider range than many muscle car enthusiasts recognize. The seller acquired the car in April 2021, and subsequent work is said to have included installation of a Bluetooth-capable stereo, performing an alignment, servicing of the power steering system, and replacement of the shocks and tires. Visible through the windshield. It looked and sounded like it was a W-30, but it was a Cutlass W-31. How hard would it be to change out the clutch or even rebuild the tranny for that $22k ask? Additions by the seller include a Custom Sport steering wheel and hub, a 7k-rpm tachometer with an inset clock, a woodgrain dash bezel and ash tray cover, and rear package shelf trim. I thoroughly check the codes on a W-30 carburetor, distributor, cylinder heads, and starter, as there are a lot of re-stamps out there. These cars have a lot of rare engine parts on them, Minore says, including carburetors that were W-31 specific. Im willing to bet the lower fender, rockers, and rear wheel lips are shot as well. Unless you can do all of the work yourself, I wouldnt touch it. Copyright 2023, Antique Automobile Club of America. Rating breakdown (out of 5): Comfort 5.0. W-31s have a lot of rare engine parts on them. Is a restored a car harder to authenticate? In time, he also began buying Oldsmobile parts cars and stripping them. If I lived closer and could afford to bid, I wouldnt offer any more than $12.000.00. Sliding into the number one spot, the French brand was named the most reliable car brand of all, beating all other manufacturers to the top. The body was refinished in its factory shade of Nugget Gold Metallic (53) during prior ownership in 1984 according to the seller, and photos of paint meter readings are provided in the gallery below along with close-up photos depicting the paint and trim. There are Julian codes on the front disc brake calipers, the master cylinder, and the radiator tag. Reconnected! Sort of like Woodstock, a big experiment. Kia in collaboration with Lucky Group has taken the initiative of establishing their manufacturing plant in, In general, you should expect to service your Porsche every 10,000 miles or once per year. Its not accurate. Meriden, Connecticut's Stephen Minore is a self-professed "Oldsmobile nut" with a particular interest in the 1970 W-Machines. In 1968, a full 52 percent of America's population was under the age of 25. Chevrolet, Pontiac and Buick had been doing this and Olds joined the movement. This rare and beautiful 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass W31 is now available from MaxMotive. Required fields are marked *. Menu Search (866) 383-1416; Inventory. There are several actions that could trigger this block including submitting a certain word or phrase, a SQL command or malformed data. "Hardware store hardware," we call it. What makes the W-31 the car it is, is Oldsmobile' 325 HP, 350 CI, V8 engine. The carpet is typically faded but the dash-pad and instrument panel seems fine. no way. The needle was buried to end peg. The muscle car's future looked grim. At its introduction, the Cutlass was Oldsmobile's entry-level model; it began as a unibody compact car, but saw its greatest success as a body-on-frame intermediate.The Cutlass was named after the type of sword, which was common during the Age of Sail. The grilles on a 1970 W-31 are very hard to find, but they did come on four-door cars, station wagons, and Cutlass S cars. Checking for missed updates, BaT Auction Success Story: An NSX Rounds Out the Stable. The automaker itself might have actually contributed to this with their late 1980s promotion of not your fathers Oldsmobile. 209.151.232.218 All Locations Atlanta Charlotte Chicago Dallas Denver Detroit Fort Lauderdale Houston Indianapolis Kansas City. A full-size spare wheel with a Goodyear tire is located in the trunk. He is standing next to Stefano Bimbi's 1970 W-30 four-speed convertible, which was featured on the cover of the Nov. '15 issue. Larger engines, high end wheels are a few of the modifications. Did you mean to enter this number as a bid? "I started looking at things like the Julian date codes on cowl tags, VIN numbers, broadcast sheets, and those kinds of things. This is not an easy restoration by any means, but as they say, the bones are there, I had a 1968 ramrod my junior year in high school 1980 bought it after I totaled my 71 Torino cobra I paid 1600 for the ramrod the same as I paid for my Torino . See prices, photos, and find dealers near you. Your bid of $ is $ more that the current high bid of $. What does it cost to authenticate a 1970s Oldsmobile muscle car? I wanted to see how things were put together. To be able to look at a picture of an original W-30 car from back in the day to reference something is priceless.". All this said, if I was in the market for a 70 W-31, I would have this one inspected and make a offer on it. Engine upgrades included the use of what's become known as the 308 camshaft, which was actually the unit's duration; the camshaft also touted .474-inch lift and an intake/exhaust valve overlap of 82 degrees. It boils down to the fact Oldsmobile product planners toed the corporate line restricting engine displacement to 330 cubic inches. With the Urus, the company's $200K SUV that debuted earlier this year, the wait time is, Unlike regular cars, the reliability of supercars is hard to rate due to their limited production. However, he said that so-called experts had told him that it was not for that particular car because it didn't have the VIN listed at the top of it. Get Used 1970 Oldsmobile Values Select a 1970 Oldsmobile Model Select a vehicle year and model below to get a valuation. Do you want to have hands like this when you get to be my age? Something well never know. . Additional items accompanying the car include a Protect-O-Plate, owners manuals, and a vehicle history summary from the reported original owner, photos of which are provided in the gallery. RULES: No profanity, politics, or personal attacks. Today's cars are more reliable than ever, according to the J.D. It was introduced as an option package for F-85 and Cutlass models sold in the United States beginning with the 1964 model year. VIEW PRICES. The 1970 W-30 featured a 455 cubic inch 370 HP engine. Other notable components included a lightweight aluminum intake manifold, the W25 fiberglass ram-air hood, anti-spin differential with 3.42:1 gears (3.73:1 available), and heavy duty cooling. It was pointed out that the largest market for Oldsmobiles was the population whose parents had in fact owned Oldsmobiles. Just picked up a 65 dodge dart from the original owner, 32000 miles on it. Oldsmobile launched the 4-4-2 in 1964, the same year Pontiac made history with the GTO. Condition: New: A brand-new, unused, unopened, undamaged item (including handmade . Experience has shown that a minor service including oil, filters, and inspection will cost between $200 and $400, while a major service including transmission services will cost, The automaker claims that the lineup contains quintessential sports cars, but it would appear that there's an identity crisis occurring. It is a bucket seat/no console environment, which is not encountered that often, though the shifter boot bezel is missing. The interior is a mix. Celebrating the 100,000th Bring a Trailer Auction! Become a member to add images to your comments. Major difference was the AC cars had C heads, Non AC cars had D heads. Properly tuned, a W-31 is fun to drive, but it isnt going to scare anyone. Porsche offers the 911 in six trim levels: Carrera, Carrera S, Lamborghini dealerships own the vehicles seen in showrooms and if you want one be prepared to wait six to 12 months. This car was the most reliable car I have ever owned. The Ramrod 350 Cutlass appeared in 1968 and became the W31 in 1969. This month, we've stumbled onto a very special Oldsmobile that was meant to throw the insurance man a curve. Post in the forum instead. Just 500 were made, all four-speeds. Minore (right) chats with Ryan Weaver at the 2015 MCACN show about Weaver's barn-found 1969 W-31. I ended up buying that car, and that's what got the ball rolling with my research on the W-31s. In J.D. When Jimmy arrived at Andy's garage, instead of walking directly to look under the sheet covering the car, he made a beeline for a washing machine covered with car parts and paperwork. Oldsmobile Division only made 500 of those cars, and all of them were four-speeds. eBay item number: 125789414248. We dont have any photos of the drivers side of the car, whats hiding there? When you bid we pre-authorize your credit card for the service fee (this helps prevent fraud). As the car was originally Rallye Pac equipped it is a shame that the Tic-Toc-Tach is MIA. It is located in Cleveland, Ohio, and available here on craigslist for $22,500. Porsche Panamera vs. BMW 6-Series Gran Coupe. It's kind of hard to explain, but it's easy to tell if one of these cars ever got into an accident. Total 1970 Oldsmobile production was 633,980 vehicles. Your daily digest of everything happening on the site. if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,600],'barnfinds_com-leader-1','ezslot_9',149,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-barnfinds_com-leader-1-0'); This is a car that requires a personal inspection The steering wheel looks pretty worn, both pedal pads are missing, even the paint on the pedals is worn off, the drivers door arm rest pad is shot, the seats, has the odometer rolled over? The engine was not offered after 1971. Porsche and BMW are very different premium brands one is known for speed and agility and the other for luxury and engine power. You don't find the right color or plated bolts in the right places anymore. Free shipping for many products! Everything you need to know about your car! You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. The TH350 transmission was very special on this cars and is known as a JO coded unit. Up to that point I didn't know the difference, so I went and inspected the car. What does it take to build a 911? A 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass W-31 recently sold at auction for $90,000. I would knock several digits off the price just for this being a non-runner. Antique and Classic Car VIN Numbers / What Do They Tell Us? These cars are very rare and attract owners with erudite knowledge of Oldsmobile muscle. Realizing that Jimmy was the right person to restore and save its history, Andy sold the W-31 to him. Always question everything else the seller says when he wont do something basic like clutch replacement and his asking is so high. Andy's father was in the military in Rhode Island when this car arrived, and thus his mom picked it up new. I'm 40 years old. The Oldsmobile Cutlass first came on the scene as a 1961 1/2 model. This 1970 Cutlass S is a Nugget Gold Metallic hardtop that was first sold at Tapper Chevrolet-Oldsmobile in Montpelier, Idaho, and it reportedly remained with its original owner until 2018 and now shows 75k miles. inch block. And here for your review, is just such an example from 1970. GM Corporate mandated a 10:1 minimum ratio across all five divisions through the 60s. As a longtime collector, though, Jimmy had a spare "255" carburetor. My database is quickly growing on these cars, and it should make for an informative book. You never know what's going to turn up in the junkyard. Hopefully a prospective buyer can negotiate a somewhat lower price. I have been able to amass a database for 1970 W-30 four-speed and automatic cars. That's part of how they advertised it.". No, theyre not too common. By 1970, the W-31's final production year, the body styles included either a Cutlass S (Holiday or Sports Coupe) or the F-85 Sports Coupe. Oldsmobile would offer actually, two choices.. the Rallye 350 and the W-31. These models were equipped with the Hurst/Olds package. If you don't win, your existing pre-authorization will be released. This car has seen some rough riding. One of the best examples was the 340 CI Dodge Dart GTS which later helped spawn Plymouths Duster 340. Approximately 75k miles are shown on the five-digit odometer, about 2,500 of which have been added by the seller. You CAN get a good indication if the motor appears to be original and unmolested, and if all the correct W-31 equipment is in place. "Unless you have a paper trail, it's next to impossible to say this is a true W-31 factory car," he says. You see, unlike today's completely insane muscle car marketplacewhere typical buyers of these 550 to 840 horsepower road kings age between 40 and 140, always pay their insurance bills on time, and seldom do crazy things on public roadsthe muscle car move of the 1960s was a first-time-around deal. The manufacturer estimates that about 200 Taycan cars cannot be built per day. At the present, my expertise covers 1968-1972, and that includes W-30s, W-31s, and others. The next two numbers afterwards should decode . The option disappeared after 1970. . Who knows what else is wrong if the car cant be driven. The technical knowledge came from owning and parting out cars and dealing with Oldsmobile collectors. The Connecting Rods as also specific to W-31 engines. Supreme Holiday Hardtop Supreme Convertible Supreme 4-Door Holiday Hardtop Handling 1970 Averages The 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass measures 69.50 inches in width, The 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass measures 203.20 inches in length, and has a wheelbase of 112.00 inches. The Porsche 911 GT3 is one of the highest performing sports cars in the 911 lineup and is designed primarily for ultimate track performance. I always wonder why they stopped making this model. 1970 f85 w31 the car has everything a w31 has except carb intake and harmonic balancer has edelbrock carb and intake on it now and its a automatic trans which was rare only 52 made and its correct for a w31 car has matching number block but has 71 heads on it car needs some . A number of Honda Accords have experienced excessive oil consumption. The W-31 actually started out in 1968 and was the Cutlass-based Ram Rod 350.

. The transmission VINs need to be correct, and the factory tag needs to be on the right side of the transmission. (Opt Out of Sale/Targeted Ads). He pulled it out, and it was the broadcast sheetthat car's Golden Ticket! This is the VIN stamp on a W-30 engine block. Sign up for a new account in our community. Bidding will advance immediately to $. Here is an amazing one-owner, matching numbers, low mileage Oldsmobile 442 Holiday Coupe from 1970, the peak of Oldsmobile performance, available now from the MAXmotive Pittsburgh Showroom. DAA Industry Opt Out This particular vehicle was a professional build automatic T-400 with 12-bolt rear, factory cold air induction, factory Ram Air hood, 4-core radiator and disc brakes. That too has its own part number. Oldsmobile created interest in Cutlass performance with offerings such as the 1970-71 SX, powered by a 455 V-8, and the 1970 Rallye, with a 350 V8 and its 325 HP under the hood. Stephen took his father's advice, and says now, "Drafting has provided me with a good living and a solid foundation to move ahead, get married, raise a family, and follow other pursuits." The all-new Turbo GT model is at the top of the model range. Oldsmobile got into the act too in 1969 with their 350 CI powered, W31 Oldsmobile Cutlass. Contact Us - DO NOT EMAIL CAR QUESTIONS. The W-30 was an option of the Olds 442, while the W-31 was an option on the Cutlass. Available was a four speed automatic. Features include 14 Super Stock II wheels, front disc brakes, dual hood scoops, and a push-button radio. When it comes to the W-30 cars, Oldsmobile made only about five or six different Julian codes, and you've got to be able to recognize those carburetors when you see them. The Olds Cutlass accounted for 154,300 of them. These models were equipped with the W-31 350 package. Oldsmobile built the W-31 as "somewhat of an insurance-beater," or a "junior supercar" with engine parts "hand-picked" for a "blueprinted" build, he says. The seller states, The original motor starts up and runs good. A special edition Hurst/Olds paced the Indy in 1972. Believe it or not, the hardest things to find these days are N.O.S. Show of hands, has anyone ever owned or driven a W-31 Cutlass and what was it like? In general, all high performance cars from the late 1960s through 1971 are popular collector cars. There is no photo of the drivers side of the car so perhaps there is more of a problem there. Not worth 8-9 K, It is strange all the cars on here that have such low mileage. If you don't win, the pre-authorization will be released. That is the color most chosen by Camry buyers during its entire production run, rumor has it. The Rochester Quadrajet, PN 7040255 and specific to the W-31 automatic and manual transmission cars, is very valuable. 1970 oldsmobile w31 production numbers. Tune in as we explore this one-of-160-built F85-based Rallye 350! Learn how your comment data is processed. Sitting at the top of our list is the Porsche Cayenne with an impressive 84.2% retained retail value after three years.



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