Progressive Centre of Gravity - Maintaining the lower CG in the stronger lofts, while raising CG even further in the more lofted clubs. With the AMA averaging 30 yards less than his potential, there is a lot of room for improvement. WebReport PP - Read online for free. I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. Imagine being on the practice ground with Justin Thomas or Nelly Korda week in week out. Driver: Titleist TSi3 (10 degrees) wrong? I play off 8 at a championship course 7200 yards in the UK. Dustin Johnson can hit a putter 400 yards I visited Hillside GC practice ground to have a full custom fitting session with the new SM9s. %PDF-1.5 I cant say I noticed the lower ball flight but this is something that Titleist have worked on gradually for the last few generations. Brooks Koepka, winner of the US Open 2017 and 2018. Hang Time 5.8 Titleist fitting last summer at my home course. My SM8 wedges are a few years old and have played over the recommended 75 rounds. The "you have to be a tour player to hit a long way" mentality is comical to say the least. I played Monday and hit my 1st 3 drives over 300 and in the fairway. How Far Should You Hit a Driver? I often feel articles such as this are skewed. I think it would be awesome to see if any of the numbers change due to the new developments. Again, I would certainly encourage you to get fitted for these due to the variations on offer and especially get fitted on grass as a mat does not give any useful feedback on interaction needed for bounce and grind. By understanding simple averages and probabilities, a golfer can choose the best club and target for each shot. Foley was talking about him hitting 8-9* down when playing his stinger. The main part of the fitting was when I moved onto the chipping green and started to hit bunker shots - these clubs just got better and better, theyre so secure in strike and very reliable. I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. Ball Speed- 176.38 average, 179.45 high Mine isnt that much higher and i hit driver 275 yards. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. get up and down 3 out of the 5 times you miss the green makes all the difference. The fairways where I play are very firm and I get a fair amount of roll. I appreciate your thoughts, great article. Exactly, I had the same perception in mind too. X-Forged UT (#3- 21)- DG X700 I can say that Trackman is second to none, and its always my first recommendation to others. What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. Id estimate the average tour player will hit their basic solid drive between 295-310 under neutral conditions. I think you wish you hit it further. The LDA guys can't hang with the short games and are wildly sporadic with their tee shots, hence why they get multiple tries. Upgraded core technology takes tee-to-green performance to the next level, New face technologies provide more forgiveness and spin consistency, Designed for golfers with more moderate swing speeds, horny mature is having great time in yttaly's casting, dark haired beauty with big natural boobs" jerk off challenge, she knows how to jump up and down on thick cock, 46, 48, 50, 52, 54, 56, 58, 60, 62. Callaway XR Pro (20) Diamana White 90X Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400. I think you wish you hit it further. Launch Angle 11.28 Justins family and friends also know him as a kindhearted young man who goes out of his way to give back. This promotes a lower ball flight and is seen by tour players as being a more accurate shot than having the ball float into the air. [/quote] Justin credits his success on the PGA TOUR to a childhood full of direction, support, and love. Most of my longer clubs only just creep above the 200 yd mark. I'm not going to wear my body down trying to swing that club. My handicap is 24, but my driving (swing) works well. All rights reserved, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Charles-Lambert-video-2.mp4, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Justin-Thomas-2.mp4, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/20220908_125734.mp4. [/quote] As far as a Trackman goes.I've used it once. If a 50% greens in regulation (GIR) stat was desired for the AMA, then the approach shot would need to be approximately 140 yards. Open navigation menu. Although there is a slow trend towards improvement, many in the golf industry wonder why progress has not been faster. Having the ability to hit it the ball as far as they can has nothing to do with me thinking highly of myself. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] They must get club speed confused with ball speed, Cough Some people may exaggerate slightly , Hi My ball speed is with driver 195 km/h AND 160 km/h with a 6 iron Schaft = rgular or ???? My hunch its even bigger for AFA vs AMA? I am still unsure of how a higher handicapper can benefit as much other than having higher bounce in a wedge. Your ball speed is a little low which could indicate an off-center strike. Or Fox Hollow in Baltimore? I can hit the ball a long ways, that doesn't make me full of bs. Acting upon real data, not opinion, takes a giant step in that direction. Not at all. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. Driver 6 Iron Brooks Koepka Related Posts Erik Van Rooyen Driver Numbers Sei Young me too! All rights reserved. Lj\gUk':Q9d P\Ko?#sU;:MRk;'FTz![]wJQRL/"&Xp]q%F"S4y_fY;<5PemA,YosVrs>l6:cc For example for a 170 yard shot into the green a quick glance at his iron yardages shows he could decide to play either a three-quarter 8-iron or try to hit a 9-iron as far as he can his max distance for that club. But i attribute most of that to playing with a best friend who was a scratch golfer and showed me theres no need to take longer than 2 hours to play 18 holes. Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide (2021). I figured that out years ago based on hole distance and yardage to the flag after my tee shot. APPLY NOW: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! I play from the whites if it is more of a difficult or bigger course. I'm BARELY 250 off the tee, but I will mop the floor with most from 125 in But if you can hit it 275 on your home muni track, that is at least 290 on a tour track with manicured fairways and perfect level tee boxes to hit from. Am I as good as tour pro? Top 100 PGA Tour Player Analysis, What Clubs Do LPGA players use? any 7 iron data ? Spin: 3811. I also shot 86. Tiger Woods Trackman numbers, I thought they were posted on here at one time from an event. The AMA has an average club speed of 93.4 mph and an average total distance of 214 yards. It takes persistence and painstaking practice to regularly do drills designed to help improve your swing speed, not to mention the constant measuring to ensure you are in fact improving your swing speed. And that was 12 years ago. [/quote] For as long as I can remember Vokey have been the top wedge brand in golf. Bilan, I think you should rub one out before you get to first tee box. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. You cannot paste images directly. Join the Thomas family to help fund important programming for children in need, junior golf and military families. Assuming however the pros are hitting standard lofted pitching, gap, sand and lob wedges we found the following stock distances for how far the pros hit them. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364404259' post='6707501'] I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. Carry Distance 302.9 Or should i take control on the distance i have? The questions you ask are great questions, but unfortunately that data is not readily available. Do you have Average Female Amature driver swing speed? But the guys with a great wedge and not great length still hack it on tour because they have what matters. Trackman is pretty interesting, obviously path and angle of attack change depending on the shot your trying to shape. Thomas breakout season came in 2016-17 with five of his PGA TOUR wins, including the PGA Championship, 12 top 10 finishes and, ultimately, the FedEx Championship. The respective games the AMA and professional golfers play today are two entirely separate entities and should be treated as such. Titleist SM5 52-08 & 58-07 S400's I wonder what his user name is on WRX.. I take most info in many sections of this board with a grain of salt. The longest player hits it 320 yards on average and the longest recorded drive in 2022 is 460 yards. Shafts: True Temper Project X PXi, Wedges: Cobra Trusty Rusty (50, 55), Tour Trusty (60) 1700 Broadway, Floor 29, New York, NY 10019, 2020 Justin Thomas. 100% of all funds raised with be used to make a constructive and quality impact for a deserving child, family or charity. WebSee how The Honda Classic Justin Thomas Trackman numbers look https://blog.trackmangolf.com/justin-thomas-trackman-numbers/ 46 to 54 degree heads have narrower and deeper grooves as these are used more in fuller shots with greater swing/ball speed. Do you suppose my distance is bs? I stressed this to my fitter - make sure you talk to them about your golf as they are only seeing a small sample of your game. Before when I opened the club face I presented too much leading edge, but due to the high bounce and shape with the M grind this doesnt happen. Why gather data from an elite course where people line up to play when that is far from representative of what most people are doing? [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]8.5* Driver[/background][/size][/color] Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 7 S, Hybrid: Callaway Apex (19 degrees) Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide (2021), link to What Driver is Most Used On the PGA Tour? Justin is committed to showing benevolence and grace to children in need, with the goal of bolstering their confidence, strengthening their determination, and allowing them great possibilities. Shaft: Aldila NV, Irons: Cobra Amp Forged (4-PW) Yet I hit my driver 230 yards to what they say is average, 214. This put him near the bottom of the pack. Many golfers save some money and buy the SM8s and others will upgrade from SM7s to SM9s. I'm not on here to impress anyone with my driving distance but that doesn't mean I didn't hit it that far. TaylorMade Stealth+ 8 w/ PX Handcrafted Prototype EvenFlow Black 65 6.5, TaylorMade SIM ROCKET 14.5 w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 18 Tour Issue w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 3-19 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 4-22 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, Srixon ZX7 6-AW w/ Nippon Modus Tour125 Stiff I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. The AMA has a reported handicap of 14 or 15. The wedge glided through the turf and nipped the ball at impact, resulting in reliable soft strikes. With a collection of prestigious wins, including the 2017 FedExCup, 2017 PGA Championship, 2021 PLAYERS and 2022 PGA Championship, Justin Thomas is known to many as a celebrated professional on the PGA TOUR. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. Both wedges I could spin and release depending on the swing I put on the shot, I was especially a fan of the lob wedge chip shot which stopped on the second bounce. How many times do you see TV reporting driving distance on an uphill into the wind hole? 4 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X, Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x, Putter- Odyssey Vesa 12 center stroke lab shaft. STEAL THESE FROM ME! This data further confirms the need for most golfers to aim towards the center of the green on all approach shots. Can trackman info like the dispersion plot data be projected over a course layout? 14* SLDR // Speeder 8.3x The AMA is far from efficient with his driver. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. Yes, typically very short drivers of the ball are better iron players or wedge players. What Irons Do the Pros Use? Is the dispersion linear, eg at 176 yards is it the same proportion at 88 feet or more? It is all about the short game Sure, I see guys hitting 250-300 yards, but they are far from the norm. TI Taylormade SIM (9.0) Tensei CK Pro Orange 70TX Driver: Cobra Amp Cell Pro (8.5 degrees) Shaft: Aldila RIP Phenom 3-wood: Titleist 906F4 (13.5 degrees) Shaft: Aldila NV 7-wood: Michael Hopper whats in the bag accurate as of the WM Phoenix Open. Spin Rate is on the high side, which also could indicate an off-center strike, and probably a negative attack angle both will shorten your distance. Here are Tiger's averages for this season on shots that were measured: Now that you guys have more and more data from the combine tests are you going to adjust the hcap chart. Have a look at his driver and 6 iron numbers below: Driver 6 How about heading out to Wedgefield in Georgetown, SC? Justins interest in the military was inspired by some of the men and women in uniform he has met over the years. Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 85 S, Irons: Callaway Apex Forged (2021) (4-PW) This way the material is removed from the face and not spread out which means the grooves are sharper and weight isn't dispersed. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Spin Rate - 2200 rpm[/background][/size][/color] Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Black 6 X, 3-wood: TaylorMade Stealth 2 Plus (15 degrees @ 14) [quote]I don't measure my driver distance. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. Due to the large volume of autograph requests, fulfillment of requests is not guaranteed. Hang Time 5.8 [/quote] Im sure most of them can squeeze out 10 extra yards on every club on this chart. I didnt start playing until i was 31 and it was over by 42 yet my handicap was 12. You dont need to be depressed your swing speed is high enough to play very good golf. Required fields are marked *. The average green size at Torrey Pines South is 6,000 square feet. The handicap system is equally misleading as the vast amount of amateur golfers dont have a handicap, and if they did, they would be 36.4. Notice how few balls landed past the target.. I don't measure my driver distance either. =t 'BRvGGs.Du="dP0 J/% Np^=+,5I,F5HH#418y\PuQ5) x9.>5?2P5@B$bz.k^OY<>Vf.%,(H8,~f3YzWBpj|!8K^E`$D &XP9gBTl+= Tg{\(k@bW6o9e:&x$hx"o0@:+}UnMD($R*3|>M}18&oA>m Ed&Z):Y{J|'@*bT6|QNbge2RU'02_^^{ Golf Balls are a Problem, Most Popular Driver on LPGA Tour? The longest player hits it 320 yards GHIN reported the average male handicap at 15.3 in 2003 and 14.3 in 2012. Once again Vokey customise their wedges even in the grooves. NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! (Unimpededof course, because we always were able to play during the week). [quote name='eddie_max' timestamp='1364438260' post='6711367'] The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. I know I hit the ball a long way though. Consistency is Key, Are Driving Range Distances Accurate? Mack Made Custom Blade. The strategy implemented to create 10 additional yards of carry could be from lack of knowledge regarding how far each club goes. Everyone has one. [/quote] Im a 9 handicap wanting to get into the low single digits. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. It should make you a little. The ball shoots from the face and you lose the control of the ball. Mizuno Pro 225 5-GW PX IO [/quote] GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, Tuesday at 04:47 PM, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 20, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 13, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 6, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, January 31, Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here, Please put any questions of comments here. The Fairway Woods Used by the Top 100 PGA Tour Pros, What Irons Do the Pros Use? The fairways where I play are very firm and I get a fair amount of roll. When it comes to his mid-irons he hits his 6-iron and 7-iron 195 and 180 yards. My problem is the amount of power i have and need to work on half wings. [/quote] Crazy thing is I hit my 3 wood off the tee about 250 yards. [quote name='Hamish777' timestamp='1364356541' post='6704153'] Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. It's good for some laughs. Does anyone know any of Tiger Woods Trackman data either pitching, irons, 3woods or driver? There he became one of the storied programs most decorated athletes being named Phil Mickelson Freshman of the Year, Jack Nicklaus Player of the Year, the Haskins Award Winner as the most outstanding player in collegiate and amateur golf, and capped his collegiate career by helping the Crimson Tide win their first National Championship in 2013. a higher loft) than the actual degree loft number shown on their club. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Launch Angle - 11*[/background][/size][/color] Its a whole different story. Close suggestions Search Search Search Search Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW Blue 75 TX, Hybrid: Titleist TSi2 (21 degrees) What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. Unless you're using the ball you play with every round, in the different conditions you play in, the numbers on the Trackman are null and void. Vokeys are no doubt aspirational golf clubs, you are viewed as a knowledgeable and better golfer if you have these in the bag. To fix that we changed to the new wedge with fresh grooves and made it a degree flatter to straighten my flight up. In truth, the vast majority of golfers are playing from tees that are too long based on their club speed and skill level. People that take hole distance & distance on approach to calculate driving distance is what's funny. Great read with invaluable data and information. If you are a right handed player the slice and above numbers could be due to a heel strike. This informative information was more helpful for golfers. Its about 20% less when comparing PGA vs LPGA. Graeme started playing golf when he was only 4 years old and has loved the game ever since. Pro Modus 3 Tour 105 S, Wedges: Callaway Jaws (54-10S, 58-10S), Titleist Vokey Design SM6 (62-08M) This course setup for the AMA is assuming a perfectly optimal drive by the golfer so in theory 395 yards would be a maximum length for the AMA based on 50% GIR. Not As Much As You Think! The title would be just as useful as well. I recently had my swing analyzed and would like to share the results so that maybe someone could explain this in simpler terms. I work in the industry and frequently play with low handicaps who tease me into playing longer yardage (they assume at 63 250 I bomb it) my home course is 7400 from the tips, and this frustratingly puts my score in the mid 90s. WebBut he picked up 25 yards for elevation, 25 for wind, and another 45 for extra roll. Once you except your limitations, you can get out and enjoy the game we LOVE instead of loathing it. Jordan Spieth WITB 2021 (May Charles Schwab Challenge), Jordan Spieth WITB: 2020 Farmers Insurance Open, Jordan Spieth winning WITB: 2022 RBC Heritage, WITB Time Machine: Jordan Spieths 2015 John Deere Classic winning WITB. Also, the dispersion for misses will be much wider for the AMA than the professional. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. These 23 heads are available in three finishes: Jet Black, Tour Chrome and Brushed Steel. Driver: Charles Kelley whats in the bag accurate as of the Pebble Beach Pro-Am. If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. I should be getting more distance on this club head speed right? Based on the Trackman, the fitter's recommendation was a 910 D3, 7.5 loft, and a Graphite Design Tour AD DI 8X. Club Head Speed 119.55 And for those golfers looking to make more substantial improvements to their game, the TrackMan Combine provides a roadmap for the improvement journey and accurate, immediate feedback at all checkpoints / stops along the way. Smash Factor 1.475 8.5* Tour Issue 07 Burner // PL Red 65x Victoria II. Dont think they ever release that stuff. I grabbed the 46 degree to see if I could finally be that 3 wedge Vokey golfer, it was so good I asked for an entire iron set of Vokeys. The TrackMan Combine data collected from over 10,000 golfers of all levels from around the world will be used to analyze his performance in hopes of better understanding where improvement(s) can be made. I still feel these are better players clubs for 15 handicappers or below as they are bladed heads which require you to deliver the club consistently and strike the centre of the face. Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. You can check the combine driver stats here: https://mytrackman.com/#combine. The average drive on tour last year was 289 yards. work on your short game. Is here any benefit ideas about beginners level women, what you say? I know what you are thinking, there is a lot that goes into making a wedge. show the real time hit - then after the shot replay it with the numbers/tracer. Honestly many guys in this small % sort of make every other golfer feel like that . As for his short irons his 8-iron yardage is 165, he hits his 9-iron 150 yards and his pitching wedge 135 yards on average. A good drive might only yield 250 and that isnt exciting. Add That Little Extra Limited is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees (at no cost to you) by linking to Amazon.com. I've seen plenty of tour pros hit balls & played with many good golfers. I feel like Seve in the sand these days which is never a bad thing. It is vital for them to know exactly how far they hit their wedges with a variety of different types of shots because feel is so important from those short distances, especially at the top level of the game, where a yard or two can make the difference between winning or losing a tournament. They hit 52 gap wedges a stock carry distance of between 126 and 135 yards and carry 56 sand wedges an average distance of 119 to 124 yards. If it's a really short par 4, I will hit an iron, hybrid, or fairway wood to play to that ideal distance range. PGA Tour players hit their driver a total of 296.6 yards on average with a carry distance of 284.3 yards according to official 2022 Shotlink data. Jordan Spieth whats in the bag accurate as of the Presidents Cup. Executive Director, The First Tee of Louisville, Jennifer Helgeson But you also have to add in the slight mishits, the rainy days, and the balls that land in the rough. To make such large scale improvements, we must first better understand the patientin order to diagnose the problems. [/quote] Going back to Torrey Pines South, that is somewhere between the Green and White tees. I'm 6'3, in pretty good shape and played baseball my entire life. I've had the privilege of playing with and watching tour players in person, so I know what they're capable of. The facts are in front of us at instructors, now we must help convey your points to the masses. Imagine being on the practice ground with Justin Thomas or Nelly Korda week in week out. I have always wanted a push draw and now i can see the light in the tunnel. 913 HD I don't measure my driver distance. Just ask Corey Pavin, Mark Wilson, Mike Weir, Fred Funk. PGA, Executive Director, Golf House Kentucky | Kentucky Golf Foundation. Bump up your confidence around the greens. I don't play professional golf. I remember they had the analysis of his 8 iron that he hit at firestone from like 200+ out in a golf digest or something a couple years ago don't remember any of the numbers unfortunately tho, M2, maybe Club Speed 113 mph Ball Speed 166 mph Attack Angle -1 deg Launch Angle 12 deg Spin Rate 2298 rpm People that take hole distance & distance on approach to calculate driving distance is what's funny. Most golfers I know are happy to drive the ball 200 yards and keep it in the fairway. Grip: SuperStroke Traxion Flatso 1.0. Should my ball speed be faster based on the distance Im getting. If I have a front pin with a hard green, I would go at it harder with the shorter club, maybe a 150 yard pitching wedge. Lets consider the (average) approach shot distance that the AMA will have on an average par 4. This is so I could hit it higher and spin it more, enabling me to access that tough pin position. These high-level numbers of course dont always tell the whole story as the pros like us are faced with an infinite variety of golf shots which dont always mean they are hitting each club as far as they possibly can for every shot. To help however answer the question as well as we can the table below shows the varying distances some of the top pros, including Tiger Woods, Rory McIlroy and Dustin Johnson, are hitting their wedges, together with the degrees of loft their clubs are listed at. [quote name='baseballfrk8998' timestamp='1364403832' post='6707431'] I'm planning to change my irons this year after a number of years but before heading straight to a club fitter to test out all the latest and greatest models I thought it would be interesting to take What Driver is Most Used On the PGA Tour? By adding 10 yards to every shot hit by the AMA from 160 yards, the percentage of shots that would hit the green increases from 38.5% to 44.0% and the average distance from the target decreases from 71.8 feet to 60.6 feet. Maybe for one swing he got there. How many average golfers drive the ball 250 yards and keep it in the fairway? PING i210 (4i-UW) DG X100 When it comes to looking at how far the pros hit their wedges the stock yardage they hit each club is again obviously only one of the multiple yardages they can hit the most versatile clubs in any players golf bag. [quote name='J.W.' I think you wish you hit it further. Add Driving Distance by Analyzing the Worlds Longest Driver! The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. That means the distance from the center of the green tothe edge averages just under 44 feet. I know a 47 year old who played d1 golf hits nothing but trap draws hits 8 irons 190. Distance is only a big deal to those who don't have it At the Sony Open, Thomas became the youngest player to shoot 59 on the PGA TOUR and broke the TOURs 72-hole scoring record by a stroke. Artisan MT Grind (58) DG S400 [/color] [/quote] [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] They hit a 3-wood an average carry distance of 249 yds, a 5-wood 235 yds and 3-hybrids 230 yds. In the following table the list shows how far a selection of PGA and LPGA Tour pros hit their 3-wood, 5-wood and hybrid clubs. While golf has given Justin a career he thoroughly enjoys, he knows the life lessons golf can provide. On the LPGA Tour the top women pros carry a 3-wood 195 yards, a 5-wood 185 yards and a 7-wood 174 yards on average. 5 Testers Needed! He has an average attack angle of -1.6 degrees. How Far Should I Hit My Hybrids? Your email address will not be published. This philosophy has been a revelation to me. [quote name='GooseHook' timestamp='1364385234' post='6705065'] I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. I once read that if all golfers had to count every stroke they took, and appropriate penalty shots, only 10 percent could legitimately break a 100. I went into a facility with Trackman launch monitors and have attached Shafts: Nippon N.S. Shafts: KBS Tour 125 S+, Wedges: TaylorMade Milled Grind 3 (50-09SB, 54-11SB, 60-08LB) any 7 iron data ? Lets go one step further and use the TrackMan Combine data to see what kind of proximity to hole the AMA will be able to achieve at the various approach distances. I actually feel I get more out irons than I do the woods. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. 3. After reading this article I did more research and discovered I should be playing nearly 1200 yards shorter, and doing so without shame. The performance of these wedges really was impressive. BALL; Chrome Soft X. Cameron Napa California @ 34"[/b]. In the bag I think the wedges looks great. The numbers posted above are cool to me because you can see Tiger hits balls on the range like he does on the course. The numbers posted above are cool to me because you can see Tiger hits balls on the range like he does on the course.



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